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Side Quests: ADHD & Authenticity in Everyday Moments

Melissa Llewellyn Snider & Brianna Morton Season 1 Episode 5

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What if obligatory social norms like sending thank you cards and following strict gift-giving rules could be swapped for genuine, heartfelt gestures? On today’s Hypercast SideQuests, ADHD coaches Melissa and Brianna share their light-hearted, yet deeply meaningful, experiences navigating neurodivergent and neurotypical relationships. From the joy of receiving spontaneous, thoughtful gifts to the balancing act of managing dinner plans and taxes, we reveal the beauty of complementary partnerships and question the necessity of certain societal expectations.

Join us as we recount amusing tales of forgotten anniversaries and unexpected surprises, highlighting how neurodivergent individuals often bring unparalleled creativity and joy to their relationships. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by traditional social customs or wondered why certain norms exist, this episode offers a refreshing perspective. Embrace the idea that a simple text or a random  surprise can be far more impactful than any obligatory birthday gift. Tune in for a candid, entertaining discussion that celebrates the richness of authentic human connections.


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Melissa

Hey everyone, welcome to Hypercast SideQuests. I'm Melissa, an ADHD coach and advocate.

Brianna

Hi, I'm Brianna, an ADHD coach and soon-to-be therapist. These bonus episodes are all about the random fun tangents that we go on.

Melissa

Yep, we're sharing the quirky, interesting and sometimes hilarious sidetracks that didn't make it into the main episodes. Ready for some fun.

Brianna

Let's jump into today's side quest. Hopefully, the world is going in a direction where there is more understanding, there is more empathy, there is more just general acceptance and you'll find more neurotypical people who are willing to listen to you and to support you. Myself my mother is neurotypical. My partner is neurotypical. I have found neurotypical people who are willing to accommodate me, to take the time to listen, to understand where I might be struggling and support me there and enjoy my bubbly personality or my passion. Over here there's a balance. There are so many people in the world you can interact with and it's beautiful.

Brianna

My spouse is also neurotypical and has fully embraced that he will never be bored a day in his life. We are so creative best dates always doing something fun, always doing something new and exciting. You'll never be bored. Never be bored, if you're wanting to hang out with us? Yeah, and then they can handle the boring stuff like executive functions. What should we have for dinner? When are the taxes due? Right, it's a give and a take. Right, you make their life exciting and they make sure that you don't fall behind on your taxes.

Melissa

Well, I actually do our taxes, but he's in charge of making sure we invest our money and have a retirement plan. It's a good compromise.

Brianna

Exactly yeah, my partner's in charge of thank you cards, because I cannot do a thank you card to save my life, or who sent you this and who sent you what Christmas cards?

Melissa

remembering to message. I love that. You think neurotypicals are good at that. Okay, my neurotypical is not good at that. We will never send a thank you card. I'm so sorry to all the people who have ever given us gifts.

Brianna

You know what? What if in ADHD culture, we just accept that we appreciated the gift and whatever thank you was sent, it was enough. Thank you for this gift, I love it. Nothing else was required. What if we just accept and embrace?

Melissa

I really like this idea because I always feel like it's so many extra steps. You have to find a card, you have to fill it out, you have to put it in an envelope. Oh no, not only do you fill it out, you have to fill it out. Remember what they gave and have emotion and feeling in your letter. Yeah, but something personal in there. It's all small talk.

Melissa

You got to find a damn stamp and you got to know what their address is, and then you got to get it to the mailbox and then you're done. That's a lot of steps.

Brianna

No, it's too much work, I'm never going to do it. Christmases and wedding presents and registries and baby showers and anything else that's coming up in life, where that's kind of the social expectation, I'm questioning why is that the social expectation? Is that a neurotypical thing? Is that something that I don't have to pretend that I?

Melissa

enjoy. Is it bad that I just sent you a gift card via text message? I'm thinking of you.

Brianna

See, that's the thing. This is why I much, much, much prefer gifts from my neurodivergent friends, because it's normally. They forgot my birthday. That's fine, but they're like, hey, it's a Tuesday. I saw this pink sparkly thing. I know you love pink sparkly things. I got you this pink sparkly thing. I'm like this means so much more to me than you getting me an obligatory. This is the social convention birthday gift. I'd much rather have the knowledge that my friends were thinking about me than them remembering one day that I sometimes forget my own birthday.

Melissa

Okay, Both my husband and I every year forget our wedding anniversary, and then it became a passive, aggressive thing. So whoever remembers will get the other person like flowers, and I actually don't like flowers because well, they sit, they're great and they're pretty, but then they die and then I forget to take care of them. I hate flowers as well. So, anyway, not that the world needs to know this about me.

Brianna

But see, that's the point I can relate to that much.

Melissa

If we want to have something that we do for our anniversary, that's our own personal thing. That is something we do, and even my neurotypical husband has embraced it as something fun. We've made forgetting a game and instead of being butthurt about it, it becomes like this yeah, we've gamified it. It's a challenge, it's just funny, yeah.

Brianna

Also, you're welcome to all of the neurotypical partners. They never have to remember birthdays, anniversaries. It's not going to be a problem. You're not going to get in trouble for it. You're so welcome. Welcome to our culture.

Melissa

Welcome. Take a seat, stay a while. I like this being able to embrace who I am and be happy about it.

Brianna

It just removes so much of the shame, and not just the shame, but the energy spent on the shame Like why Not only is there a shame aspect, but I'm spending so much time worrying about appearances or worrying what other people think, or worry Like why? Why it's not worth my time. I have so many more interesting rocks to look at than I have time to think about all this like shame and should-haves. And if only my house was clean when guests came over and whatnot. I still will absolutely use guests coming over too. Best way to get your house clean.

Brianna

Oh yeah, absolutely 100%. But it's not a shame thing, it's just like, oh, this is a tool I will fake, invite someone over. Hey, do you want to come over? In 30 minutes? I need to clean my house. I'm like yep, hopping in the car, now I'll be there. We both know they're not coming, but now my house is another part of the culture Having someone who's wait. You want me to actually come over. If they actually showed up there'd, do you?

Melissa

know how upset I get when I have a get-together and people arrive on time. I'm like you're supposed to arrive late. That's the polite thing to do, yeah, or show up super early and help set up.

Brianna

And then I get anxious because I have to give them a job.

Brianna

But then that takes me away from what I was supposed to be doing. I'm talking about neurodivergent people only. Oh, okay, I have a neurodivergent friend who comes like an hour early because they have the like time, blindness, anxiety where they have to be early, to be early, and I don't even assign them a task. They just walk in back door, friend, rather than like a ding dong front door friend. They'll just come in the back door and they'll wash their hands and they'll start chopping vegetables or whatever it is. Don't even ask. That's the level of understanding I'm talking about here.

Brianna

Not a neurotypical, who then you have to make small talk with. And now you're being perceived in your own home, and it's too early.

Melissa

I'm just having a moment here, an aha moment, where I'm realizing that the level of relaxation I have around other people with ADHD, it's the I see you, and that I actually take a deep breath and, like my shoulders, relax. I'm realizing this in this moment, right now. Thanks for joining us on this episode of Hypercast.

Brianna

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Melissa

Whether you're seeking practical tips, heartfelt stories or just a sense of community.

Brianna

Hypercast is here for you. Remember you're not alone in your ADHD journey. Together, we can navigate the highs and lows with courage and compassion.

Melissa

So until next time, take care, stay curious and keep embracing your unique neurodiversity. Catch you on the next episode of Hypercast.

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